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Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts
Interesting contrast to the church itself, which has the capacity of turning people into passive consumers of thoughts that have been painstakingly processed for centuries.
They don’t appreciate their fanbase being taken away
Passive consumers of overthought thoughts?
Passive consumers of poorly thought thoughts.
Those damned Catholics.
Signed, a citizen of the culturally Protestant US, where most of us don’t even consider Catholics to be Christian
Isn’t that strange though? Catholics trace themselves back to the disciples (though I think Roman and Orthodox both claim this), yet the new ones that split somewhat recently claim they are the real ones.
Yes the Apostle Peter was the first Pope. Eastern Orthodoxy, Protestantism, the Evangelists etc are are offshoots that for one reason or another rejected the Pope and Canon Law.
Eastern Orthodoxy is not an offshoot of Catholicism. They were both the same church until the schism, when they excommunicated each other.
The Pope traces his apostolic succession back to Peter, but the patriarchs of the Eastern Orthodox church trace theirs back to the other apostles. Originally, the various patriarchates were co-equal, until the Roman church began stylizing itself as the “first among equals” citing some obscure passage where Jesus had a bromance moment with Peter.
The Roman church was never in a position of authority over the other patriarchates, and when the Pope began trying to assert himself that way, the other churches began distancing themselves. The actual schism happened when that tension shattered over different interpretations of one line in the Nicean Creed.
If anything, the Roman Catholic church is an offshoot of Eastern Orthodoxy, which maintained its Ecumenical Council among the various patriarchates throughout its history.
Calling Eastern Orthodoxy an offshoot of Roman Catholicism is a very catholo-centric and misinformed take. And citing Canon Law is silly, because Rome strayed further from the original Canons than Eastern Orthodoxy ever did.
3, 2, 1… Peter Thiel is giving some spiel in Europe about the Pope being the Antichrist
“I’m definitely not the antichrist, so much so I go around holding events to discuss the antichrist and how I am not him.” The lack of self reflection or perhaps just plain evil is astounding
Hear me out, Trump is the Antichrist!
Still that’s kinda rich coming from one of the world’s biggest leaders of religion, which literally encourages people to believe things without evidence and simply based on who tells them, based on unseen guidance.
Yeah, you know things are bad when one of the major manipulator entities in history says you’re manipulating too much
‘Turning people into passive consumers of unthought thoughts’
That’s brilliant! I’m not Catholic, I’m not even religious at all, and I’ve NEVER paid attention to any Pope, but this guy is different.
He’s American with black heritage, so being different than the ones before is basically built in.
Never fear though, there’s a shoe waiting to drop somewhere, there always is.
He is Peruvian in my book
He’s also a mathematician.
a broken clock
Ok he was cooking with that line.
“unthought thought” might replace “artificial hallucination” in my vocabulary.
I’m… What? WTF, is that headline trying to tell me that I’m experiencing an aneurysm?
The pope doesn’t like AI, brandished a sword and called people idiots. More at 11
That’s kinda based ngl. Too bad the Catholic church is an awful organization.
Okay but what if we put their awfulness into a directed form aaaaand they burnt down Constantinople… again.
But Constantinople is Istanbul
No, istanbul is Constantinopoli
I mean, it’s nobody’s business but the Turks’, so I guess I should just keep my mouth shut
Orange Catholic bible when?
May 2021
https://godblesstheusabible.com/
It’s based off New King James, which is the official Catholic text. This is the Orange Catholic Bible.
Don’t forget the official White House image of Pope Trump. https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1918502592335724809?lang=en
Edited to correct date from 2001 to 2021. My fat fingers tell all the lies.
What the fuck this is?
It’s a Dune reference!
So it is!
What a weird world we live in.
I am an atheist (albeit I support our national churches/religious entities and believe they should be state financed) and it is fascinating that I agree with Leo XIV on an ethical, moral and even theological/spiritual level.
P.S. While I don’t believe in a meta-physical, abrahamic tradition-style god, I do think there is a lot of wonder, beauty and even sacredness (divinity) to the cosmos. Something along the lines of this quote from a book by Alan Watts:
The universe is the Big Bang, the beginning of the universe. And you’re not something that is a result of it. You’re not something that is a sort of byproduct of it. You are it. It’s like when you take a bottle of ink and you throw it at a white wall. Smash! And all the ink spreads out. In the middle, it’s dense, isn’t it? And as it gets out on the edge, the little droplets get finer and finer and make more complicated patterns.
So in the same way, there was a big bang at the beginning of things and it spread. And you and I, sitting here in this room, as complicated human beings, are the little fringes on the edge of that bang. We are the way it’s going now.
“In the beginning the universe was created. This made a lot of people angry and has widely been considered as a bad move.”
-Douglas Adams
I am an atheist (albeit I support our national churches/religious entities and believe they should be state financed)
What the actual fuck?
Another poster mentioned “That’s a very European mindset.” It’s not exclusively a European mindset, I’ve lived for several years in Asia and have visited multiple regions. This “mindset” is arguably common even among those who are not particularly religious.
National religious institutions provide a sense of belonging to the populace, help maintain our national identity and culture and help our national liberation struggle. Even as an atheist, these are clearly good things.
And there is no discrimination in terms of religious identity. I support our Orthodox Church, Catholic Church (which is actually much more diverse than in many countries) and the Crimean Muslim leadership.
One can argue this is not a mindset, but common sense and that American attitudes are a mindset.
From my time living in the US (several years, with extensive travels), I got the impression that America nominally has “separation of church and state”, but it in reality this separation does not exist. A significant portion of American Christianity (perhaps not the majority, but it is a huge portion, far more than most Americans would admit) is de facto an arm of the oligarch regime, focused on enabling tax fraud, spreading crime and corruption and running political bribery systems. And you can’t even shut them down because of the alleged “separation of church and state”. It’s funny how that works. :)
There is one anecdote that perfectly demonstrates what I am talking about:
And the cherry on top was a comment that I found when doing a web search to find the link above:
If churches opened their doors, they’d be subject to the same criminal and legal risk that any other private business would be responsible for. The world is not a perfect utopia, and churches have to protect themselves as much as anyone else. Why don’t you open your doors?
This is extremely funny. 🤣
Wouldn’t you rather have people recognize why they turn to religion and nationalism instead of taking care of their fellow humans (for the sake of being human themselves instead of being kind in the expectation of a reward by a imagined deity)?
It’s the sick and bone crushing world we ourselves need to change so we can all finally be free as humans together - not look for belonging and identity, certainly not national which will only pit us against each other.
“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.” (Yes, it can help you cope - but don’t forget to reflect on what you’re suffering from.)
“No saviour from on high delivers; No faith have we in prince or peer. Our own right hand the chains must shiver: Chains of hatred, greed and fear.” Yup.
There’s no such thing as common sense. Its just a way for people to claim their ideals as the standard because “I said so.”
I strongly disagree.
I explained my reasoning with some clear examples. And that’s just the tip of the iceberg, I am not going to write a 2,000 word wall of text unless I am having an interesting conversation.
There’s no such thing as common sense. Its just a way for people to claim their ideals as the standard because “I said so.”
I wonder if you see the irony in this statement and how it was presented “I said so”. :)
He’s just mad the church of shrimp Jesus is leaving him in the dust.
