• applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Thr USA killed way way way more than 10 million native americans. We will never know the true scale of the genecide because the majority of it was done through disease. Early settlers would deliberately trade goods contaminated with several european diseases that the natives had little or no resistance to, including small pox and several others I can’t remember off the top of my head. Explorers moving west described “virgin” country untouched by man, beautiful and bountiful, but they were wrong. What they saw was an environment shaped over thousands of years by humans for humans that once supported hundreds of millions of native americans, who were mostly dead by the time european explorers got there. The genecide everyone knows about was really just the end, picking off the stragglers. That was bad enough that it’s whitewashed in public schooling, but they don’t even teach the history of the biological warfare that did the vast majority of the work. In many ways the americas still bear the gaping wounds of european contact today. This place is built on a foundation genocide.

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    Yet, they still manage to have concern for Uyghurs, who they didn’t know existed until imperial core propaganda started manufacturing bullshit about them.

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        Why would I condemn something that didn’t happen? Previously:

        You can’t bring us evidence because there isn’t any.

        The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once its efforts failed, it made lemonade out of its lemon by concocting and promoting a genocide narrative.

        The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same mapimperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same ones supporting Israel’s genocide.

        Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
        https://twitter.com/un_hrc/status/1578003299827171330

        #HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.

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            He linked you a UN vote where almost all the majority Muslim countries, save for Somalia, voted no or abstained on starting a debate about China’s treatment of the Uyghurs. That’s not China speaking.

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              Is it not? Surely we don’t have to sit here and pretend that United Nation votes aren’t extremely political. Maybe if we were school children playing model UN we might think that but we should all know better right? We know that geopolitics and trade relations usually define UN resolutions more than actual truth does. It’s one of the major faults of the United Nations.

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                You’re right, those filthy stupid brown people just don’t know what’s good for them. They’re only voting like that because China forces them to, otherwise they would definitely agree with the US who demonstrably cares about the well-being of Muslims.

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              Ok, so Poland seems to recognize it and is not in the “core”…

              Turkey seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

              Taiwan seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

              Ukraine seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” … Ukraine actually said that after they did China threatened to limit trade and block scheduled delivery of 500,000 covid vaccine doses.

              Czech Republic seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

              Actually looking at the countries supporting and not supporting it looks like divide is more between democracies and dictatorships.

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                  You’re saying that Russia and China is anti-imperialistic? One actively is trying to exterminated a country and another is preparing to do the same likely in 2027.

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                Why do you think post-Warsaw Pact states like Poland, the Czech Republic, and Ukraine fall in line with what the ruling classes of the richest countries want? Could it be that these countries became completely dominated by the Western IMF/NATO protection racket upon seceding? Could it be that there’s been a concerted effort since the beginning of the Cold War to create a class of liberal and fascist collaborators in these countries with the explicit purpose of defeating communism? Should it be surprising that they’re anticommunist as a result?

                Taiwan is probably the most obvious one to choose if I wanted an example of a country (allegedly) with a vested interest in making up human rights violations against China.

                And how can you call the side with the US in it democratic?

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                  Why are you changing goal posts? Looks like it is more countries than “the core”.

                  Ukraine also showed how China pressured everyone to not vote yes.

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                Every country on earth is a dictatorship: either a dictatorship of the rich or a dictatorship of the proletariat