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I do some small-scale solar installs and the rate of pricing decline is insane. Even in a world where everything is getting more expensive, solar panels, electronics, and batteries all continue to rapidly fall in price.
I need to research how to get a permit in my country to install them (can’t do it without, they literally have helicopters checking once in a while)
Usually no permit required if its not connected to the grid 🙂
China singlehandedly giving me hope for the future
same, any time I look for uplifting news, it’s inevitably from China
That’s unfortunate given their treatment of their people.
It’s unfortunate that you believe the lies the West tells you about its enemies.
huh?
People in China enjoy genuine human rights, like right to housing, education, and healthcare. 90% of families in the country own their home giving China one of the highest home ownership rates in the world. What’s more is that 80% of these homes are owned outright, without mortgages or any other leans. https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/03/30/how-people-in-china-afford-their-outrageously-expensive-homes
The real (inflation-adjusted) incomes of the poorest half of the Chinese population increased by more than four hundred percent from 1978 to 2015, while real incomes of the poorest half of the US population actually declined during the same time period. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w23119/w23119.pdf
From 1978 to 2000, the number of people in China living on under $1/day fell by 300 million, reversing a global trend of rising poverty that had lasted half a century (i.e. if China were excluded, the world’s total poverty population would have risen) https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/China’s-Economic-Growth-and-Poverty-Reduction-Angang-Linlin/c883fc7496aa1b920b05dc2546b880f54b9c77a4
In fact, people in China enjoy high levels of social mobility in general https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-social-mobility.html
Student debt in China is virtually non-existent because education is not run for profit. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jlim/2016/08/29/why-china-doesnt-have-a-student-debt-problem/
China massively invests in public infrastructure. They used more concrete in 3 years than US in all of 20th century https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2014/12/05/china-used-more-concrete-in-3-years-than-the-u-s-used-in-the-entire-20th-century-infographic/
China also built 27,000km of high speed rail in a decade https://www.railjournal.com/passenger/high-speed/ten-years-27000km-china-celebrates-a-decade-of-high-speed/
All these things translate into tangible freedoms allowing people to live their lives to the fullest. Freedom can be seen as the measure of personal agency an individual enjoys within the framework of society. A good measure of whether people genuinely feel free is to look at what people of the country have to say on the subject. Even as mainstream western media openly admits, people in China overwhelmingly see their system as being democratic, and the government enjoys broad public trust and support.
- https://www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176
- https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2021/0218/Vilified-abroad-popular-at-home-China-s-Communist-Party-at-100
- https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree
- https://web.archive.org/web/20230511041927/https://6389062.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/6389062/Canva images/Democracy Perception Index 2023.pdf
- https://www.tbsnews.net/world/china-more-democratic-america-say-people-98686
- https://web.archive.org/web/20201229132410/https://en.news-front.info/2020/06/27/studies-have-shown-that-china-is-more-democratic-than-the-united-states-russia-is-nearby-and-ukraine-is-at-the-bottom/
The treatment of the people of China by the government is why over 90% of the population approves it, which is shown to be consistent and accurate.
That’s true. The way China treats people as if they should be protected from bad news that could be perceived as negative or destabilizing (at least without some “massaging” of its statistics), is the reason why they have always good news and high approval rate.
Personally, I feel that being in either of the extremes when it comes to reports of satisfaction is a bad sign. I feel a healthy relationship always requires acknowledging the failures of its own government and being critic on the things that are not being done right… and there’s always something not being done right…
Personally, I feel that being in either of the extremes when it comes to reports of satisfaction is a bad sign. I feel a healthy relationship always requires acknowledging the failures of its own government and being critic on the things that are not being done right… and there’s always something not being done right…
So satisfaction and critique are mutually exclusive now? By that metric every government ever scores zero. Convenient logic when you need to dismiss data that inconveniences your worldview. High approval isn’t delusion. It’s people seeing poverty eradicated, infrastructure built, living standards rise. Problems exist. Work continues. That’s not denial that’s materialism. Maybe try analyzing from actual conditions instead of importing liberal anxiety about what “healthy” dissent should look like. The fairytale of insisting legitimacy requires perpetual dissatisfaction.
I get it. Watching a system deliver for its people while refusing to perform your brand of performative self flagellation and despair must feel unsettling. But projecting your need for cathartic “criticism” and unrest onto 1.4 billion of us is cope of the purest form.
Citing Radio Free Asia, a CIA-cutout, is pretty absurd. Either way, though, the reason why the people of China support their system and government is because their lived experience has been constant improvement in real, material ways, year over year for many decades in a row. If you know people from China, then you’d know that they spend a ton of time criticizing their government, they just support their system because it genuinely does work at addressing systemic problems.
When you hear that 90%+ support the system, that doesn’t mean 90%+ believe nothing is being done wrong. What it means is that the country is headed in the right direction and the government is doing a good job at addressing real, existing problems.
While RFA’s funding is American, the evidence they present (videos of floods, leaked documents, interviews with locals) is often corroborated by non-Western sources like Al Jazeera, The Straits Times, or CNA (Singapore). If the “bad news” is happening, the source’s funding doesn’t make the flooded house or the frozen bank account any less real.
If you know people from China, then you’d know they are very critic of the local level, they are ok with criticising the local landlord, a corrupt mayor, or a lazy bureaucrat. But the “criticism” stops the moment it touches the systemic level (e.g., “Maybe we need a different party” or “The top leadership made a mistake”).
If the government is truly doing a “good job at addressing real problems,” then why is censorship increasing? If 90% of people are happy, the government shouldn’t need to delete videos of a flood or a bank run. The fact that they do delete them suggests the government itself is worried that the 10% of “bad news” could quickly erode that 90% support.
RFA is a propaganda outlet. The fact that sometimes its claims are corroborated does not mean that they aren’t dedicated to anti-communism and supporting western imperialism, regardless of truth.
People from China do tend to criticize the central government, just not as much, because they have fewer problems with it. As for censorship, they do it to censor the speech of capitalists and those that undermine the system, they aren’t fully hiding any and all bad news, just bad news that’s spun in a way that tries to undermine government legitimacy.
I suggest you actually look into how these approval numbers come to be and why.
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Just block and move on
Why haven’t you? Take your own advice.
You don’t have any proof so you gotta smear us, beautiful lol
Wouldn’t it be nice to live in a country you could be proud of?
So glad to see this.
Seeing all those nuclear fanboy comments whenever solar was mentioned from 2010 to 2025 was tiring.Onto the natgas fanboys.
I’m looking at you Alex Christoforou.I still want natgas for cold, windless winter weeks.
Include battery-exhausted to windless and I agree,
but natgas fanboys will still claim that solar power “doesn’t work” and “can’t ever replace natgas”.Why? Why do people constantly claim that the only way to generate baseline power is by releasing fossil fuels and burning things?
No. Not baseline. Standby capacity for when it’s cloudy, still, dry and all battery capacity has been used up.
Maybe we only need natural gas for, say, 10 hours per year, but in those hours we really need it
Maybe there is a better electricity mix that doesn’t rely on fossil fuels “just in case.”
As battery capacity increases those edge cases get fewer and fewer. But we will always need some fossil fuel equivalent.
The methane can come sustainably from landfill. It doesn’t need to be from dinosaurs.









