Poor Lonnie. May he cry himself to sleep on his MyPillow tonight.
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they had profits in 2025? too many ok with buying nazi products
Way too many, fuck that Nazi and his shit company
I’ve been considering getting an electric car, and have been researching good models, and I can’t believe how many places are still recommending Tesla. I know the fediverse is far lefter than most other places, but I thought at the very least the general population had stopped trusting Musk and his scams.
Hyundai Ionic 6 (sedan) or Ionic 5 (suv). I have the Ionic 6. It’s great! Even better than my old Model 3 because I can use Android Auto. AND I haven’t had the 6 reboot on me during highway driving.
(My Model 3 once rebooted while I was driving on the highway.)
Good to know, thanks! I’ve seen a lot of good things about Hyundai as well, though I do get concerned given how many issues I’ve had with my 2 Kias over the last several years. I was considering waiting to get an EV Corolla when they apparently come out in a year or two, but I also don’t know if I want to wait that long.
Tesla’s board:
hey, I know, let’s give the ketamine enthusiast who sieg heil’d a dementia-ridden psychopathic racist twice on national television a trillion dollars this year as a comp package.
Good.
Investors largely expected the decline in sales in Tesla’s fourth quarter and full-year results for 2025, and the company beat Wall Street’s estimates for earnings and revenue, sending shares up in after-market trading Wednesday.
Remember, this is talking about profits, not revenue. They’re still making profit. They did shit profits, but it was more than people expected them to make, so shares went up. Fuck Tesla.
Fucking stocks are like gambling. There’s no rhyme or reason to them.
Especially a meme stock like tesla
This is the big thing. Tesla’s stock has never been valued based on what the company is or can do. It’s valued on musk’s image and how much value people believe that brings to the company.
His huge pay packages are likely because he knows that there’s a reckoning coming with the stock, and he doesn’t want to be a bag holder for his own company.
That’s one of the reasons why he lies constantly about what’s coming. Full self-driving, people on Mars, solar roof shingles. He has to keep pumping up the image, or the whole house of cards collapses.
The problem is, there is seemingly no end to his bullshit that people will gleefully swallow. I bought it for a while, I loved the idea of an idyllic future. Unfortunately, one must deliver on that at some point. I was always willing to to accept the bullshit on the premise that it would happen at some point. However he’s lost the plot to his own hubris and idiocy. Yet somehow, he’s still able to con enough people to prop (and grow!) his meme stonk.
It’s worse than gambling. When gambling there’s risk and reward, but bad bets are still the responsibility of the player just like bets that outperform. In stocks, if someone makes a bet and/or the company misses their expected returns, the gambler can sue the company. It’s the only gambling where oops, all losses can still result in payoff for the player by fiduciary class-action lawsuit.
I played meme-stocks in 2020-21. I saw that bullshit first-hand, getting half a dozen emails after quarter misses about suing the company over their failure to meet projections. But half of those companies were just getting fucked with because of the influx of idiots like me doing silly shit with their money! I was blown away by that and suddenly started to see how fucked we were to do anything to stop the cancer that unregulated capitalism has become. Infinite growth, impossible in a finite system, is not only expected, but failure to return positive returns could be met with shareholders suing the company for line not go up high enough reasons.
It’s so messed up.
Welcome to the vibe based economy.
EcOnOmIcS iS a ScIeNcE!
Stock prices are related to economics but aren’t the focus of the field.
I had this exact opinion when Amazon lost less money than expected in 1999. I’m sure people had similar opinions before 1929. This isn’t something new.
Every 3rd car is a Tesla where I am. Many of which are newer models. At this point I feel like people are unable to vote with their wallet.
To be honest, coming from a near-launch Tesla Model 3 into the current EV market… most alternatives available in the US suck for various reasons.
I had a Polestar 3, which was great, until the AC was inconsistent on the Driver side. Only had it for 45 days before it was in for Service at Volvo 150 miles away… And has been there since last April. Still paying on it every month and having to maintain insurance… I’m still trying to get it returned as a lemon via lawyers now nearly 9 months later. In the interim I went through several Volvo, Kia, Mercedes, and Hyundai EV rentals, and talking to a coworker who has an EV Mustang. All of them felt like EV afterthoughts made just so they could say they have EV options.
The American brands almost exclusively use the same base vehicles and even interiors as their non-EV options and thus there are arbitrary things that just don’t need to be there and make it feel like they’re just making a car to say they have one (which is exactly what they’re doing).
For instance, my biggest pet peeve is having a Start/Stop button as if the thing still had an engine. There’s no need to have it since the cars are on all the time anyway. Its just an unnecessary step both when getting in and leaving the car. And it artificially prevents you from interacting with the vehicle like rolling down windows or the roof cover while it’s “off”. It’s small, but just shows it wasn’t designed to be an EV, they just took the same shit from before and dropped an EV powertrain in and called it a day.
Several brands also use the same outsourced platform like GM’s Ultima platform. So every one of those vehicles feels the same regardless of the brand it’s under, or the slightly different exteriors. The interiors are nearly identical and use GM parts regardless of brand. The Honda Prologue that I got after my Model 3 while waiting to see about new offerings in a few years, doesn’t feel like a Honda at all. It drives and feels like a Chevy Blazer. Because it is.
The only EVs I’ve driven that actually felt like they took advantage of being an EV were from EV companies, no legacy automakers. Tesla, Polestar, Lucid, Rivian. Everyone else the vehicle felt like an afterthought, especially after driving a Tesla for nearly 5 years, and those were often at 1.5-2x the cost for fewer bells and whistles. My current Prologue purchased before the EV credits went away was almost the same cost as my Model 3 back in 2018, and it’s nowhere near the same quality or capability. And that’s saying something if you know Tesla quality.
The only EVs I’ve driven that actually felt like they took advantage of being an EV were from EV companies, no legacy automakers. Tesla, Polestar, Lucid, Rivian. Everyone else the vehicle felt like an afterthought
Preach it! I test drove a variety of EVs (except tesla) last year while I was looking to replace my car. My experience was largely disappointing:
- Ford and the other American brands felt like they were designed to be disliked. All of them were overpriced and poorly designed, aside from the Chevy Volt, which was just poorly designed.
- Toyota bz4x and the Suburu on the same platform (
sunterra? IdrSolterra) were nowhere to be found near me. From what I understand, though, they also generally didn’t impress. - The VW ID.4 was… fine, I guess, but the infotainment was buggy and froze for most of the test drive. It’s also plagued with recalls, so I didn’t really trust in the longevity of the vehicle.
There was a used Polestar 2 MY21 launch edition someone traded in near me. I took it for a test drive and fell in love! Even several months in, I’m still excited to get behind the wheel, even for something like a grocery run.
The only thing about it that I am not a fan of is the range, which is ~200mi for MY21. That’s still more than enough me, I maybe need to charge 1-2x a month. Well, that and the slightly underpowered processor for the infotainment makes it a bit sluggish at times.
Edit: I remembered what the Subaru EV was called and also the Chevy Volt wasn’t overpriced i guess
Not enough.
