I (22M, American) was raised by a conservative family and taught traditional gender roles. I was told multiple times that that “gay” men (men who didn’t conform to traditional masculine gender expression) were ruining society and literally deserved to die, and that people out in the real world do the dirty work of disposing of them through stochastic violence.
Unfortunately, I turned out almost exactly how I wasn’t supposed to. I wanted to embody a cute and delicate masculinity, my true personality was caring, affectionate, and emotional, and I loved cute and pretty things. Ironically, I was so in love with feminine energy that I developed an emotionally intense heterosexual attraction to women, though in a way that was nothing like the typical straight model.
Long story short, I faced an entire childhood of ridicule and isolation and eventually developed an autoimmune disease with disabilities as a souvenir. I wanted to take my own life, but the Internet existed, so I numbed myself with endless slop content instead.
The progressive side of the Internet taught me that there are a lot of ways of being beyond the “conform or fucking die” model I was raised with. I learned that a minority of women actually could be attracted to me despite my utter disregard for the manliness rules, something I was blackpilled on before.
But I am still too scared to leave home. It is hard to motivate myself to do anything because the source of my fulfillment is to make people happy, but I can’t meet anyone because I’m frozen in fear. I still feel like everyone will hate me for being too feminine, and that the occasional stray vigilante will try to put a bullet in me. Even if I could defend myself, it feels too risky: I have to win every single time, while they only have to win once. On top of that, I am now visibly disabled, so I have to deal with ableism on top of everything else.
I can’t function this way. I’m not motivated to take care of myself or put effort into online college because I see no point to life if I can’t be social and authentic IRL. I literally just want to make people smile and feel cared for, but it feels like I’m too alien for people outside of a progressive echo chamber to accept me, and life will be full of constant gender policing, harassment, and threats of violence (especially because this is the U.S. we’re talking about). The most productive day of my life happened when I thought for a moment that I had a chance, but I fell back into my old habits once I started having doubts again.
It could be worth noting that I live in central Ohio, somewhat close to the city, so it’s not like I live in the middle of a rural hellscape. I also saw a non-binary androgynous person working at a clinic the other day, which seems like a good sign? I went to school in a more rural area, but of all of the people who seemed to like me, most of them were closer to the city.
If you have faced a similar situation, how did you make it through?
I’m also in central Ohio.
You need to get out into public. Start small, just little steps. Go someplace that attracts a diverse crowd, buy a coffee and leave. One Line would be perfect. Dip a toe, try more later.
Get the same coffee and then take it to goodale park. Watch the chaos of unleashed dogs and note that nearly nobody is looking at you.
You will come to realize that leaning into that fear is paralyzing. Most people don’t pay mind to others unless you give them a reason to. If you want to just blend in, it is wildly easy.
If you need a sherpa for your early expeditions, let me know. I’m a jobless bum right now and have time on my hands.
Hey, it’s me, the you that grew up in Kansas!
I’m 32 this year and I can tell you first hand that it’s not as bad as it looks. I’m so comically flamboyant and feminine that the trans girls at the high school I worked at were coming to me for hair care and outfit advice, never once have I been threatened by some ass backwards bigot. I even spent my mid 20’s hitting on them whenever they creeped on my gal pals.
Despite teeth like a meth house, ears I can glide with, and the worst case of psoriasis one dermatologist ever saw, my guy friends were always baffled by how my geek ass could land some of the women I dated. The answer is that intense heterosexual love you feel. Every partner I’ve ever had has been genuinely wholly the focus of my affections and they feel that.
Now I’m married to a fem presenting Non binary who’s not sure if she can call herself ace anymore now that she enjoys sex. I don’t care what she calls herself, she’s my person and I wake up next to her and grin like a loon.
Sorry for the life story, but my point is that guys like us can make it out there. It can be rocky, especially when it comes to unpacking the damage, but you can thrive. Get your ass to that city, reach out to friends and make some new ones along the way. Don’t let anyone tell you not to be you.
Hit me up in the DMS, I’d be happy to add you on Discord. You sound fantastic
I wanted to embody a cute and delicate masculinity, my true personality was caring, affectionate, and emotional
I believe that this is the better way of being a man.
They who told you that this were a bad thing, they were wrong. Very wrong. And their concept of patriarchal men is not just outdated, but bad, really bad, bordering at criminal.
I learned that a minority of women actually could be attracted to me
Or maybe a majority.
Definitely agree with this. I’m a very “soft” man, I don’t yell, anger is very rare for me, I care deeply for others, all that jazz. My wife loves that about me and it’s a big reason she agreed to marry me. Imo a woman (or man or enby) who sees softness as a plus, that’s a massive green flag.
Yes I would also say a majority. The majority of women are attracted to nice men (i.e. "cute[,] … delicate[,] … caring affectionate, and emotional)
I want to believe this is true.
But because I have such a hard time talking to people I know, talking to people I don’t know is just… Not in the cards. I can’t just pass notes to women in a bar or a coffee shop, that would probably be weirder than anything I can think of.
So even if it is true, I won’t ever get to experience it.
I can’t just pass notes to women in a bar or a coffee shop, that would probably be weirder than anything I can think of.
Confirmed, that would be super weird. Don’t do that.
Instead, work on improving your ability to talk to people generally. First friends and family that you trust. Then work on meeting new people in structured social situations - new coworkers, hobby clubs. Then in unstructured social situations - bars, concerts, public events in the park, hiking on nature trails. Then, if you really want to, you can make typically non-social situations social - striking up conversations with cashiers at the grocery store, saying hello to neighbors walking around your neighborhood, saying hello to someone who looks like your kind of person at a museum.
This work is best done in tandem with working on yourself internally. Learning to love yourself and love your life unconditionally. The more you love yourself and love your life, the more people will like you, and the less any rejection will hurt.
As you become more comfortable and confident interacting with the world platonically, you can then start taking some baby steps into flirting. I don’t recommend thinking about it too much right now. Work on improving at talking to strangers first.
Yeah I’ll let you know how that goes.
I’m 34.
Sweet, so you still have 2/3 of your life ahead of you where you can improve!



