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Also, the machine costs $500B/year to operate and generates less than $2B in gross revenue. So John Shareholder is going to need a multi-trillion dollar bailout in a year or two.
They are hoping to become profitable “soon”.
Now I just noticed how far fucking down those pants are.
Imagine the waddle🤣
But capitalists think it can let them eliminate jobs so we have to go all in no matter what
The AI cost of water isn’t really a big deal in comparison to the consumption of water through crops and other means worldwide.
I heard the cost of water for AI worldwide is 1/80 the water consumption of corn in America alone.
What is a big deal is the money invested towards it is holding up our economy, (when it could be spent on making society better) creating fake news and impersonating humans at a rapid rate.
What drives me crazy about the use of water for datacenters is that it isn’t necessary. Unlike growing crops where the water is a non-negotiable requirement of the endeavor just by its very nature, you can cool a datacentre without continuously consuming water.
It just so happens that by a completely insane series of circumstances it’s the cheapest way to do so. You could run the servers in the datacenters at a lower power limit. You could use non-evaporative cooling. You could build the datacentre in a colder or less arid climate. But no, all of those options either cost slightly more or generate slightly less money, so they aren’t even considered. Couple that with the fact that a significant proportion of that consumption is in service of prompts that no end user ever actively asked for, like the LLMs responses being generated many thousands of times per second by Google searches. It’s just this utterly pointless pissing away of resources.
Most of the water use for corn isn’t necessary either, because nearly half the corn we grow gets burned in engines in the form of corn ethanol mixed into gasoline.
I’ll say that again because it is an unfathomable stat. Nearly half the corn the US grows gets burned to make cars go. That represents 40x the water use of AI if OP is to be believed about the 1/80th stat.
I also agree that water isnt the biggest issue. Power is dedinetly a genuine concern. AI uses so much power.
Repurposing the water would be good. Have the heated water heat people’s homes for example, give something back to the community.
Instead they heat up the fish.
Well I think the perspective on water is that a lot of these data centers aren’t paying market price for water, and are leaving residents in the area with less water available
Thats a choice the local government is making and doesnt apply to every data center.
So? It’s still impactful to human lives and is more directly tangible than abstract food costs
But it isn’t an AI problem it’s a government problem.
So if a coal plant was consuming vast resources and interfering with the populace, is that the coal plants fault or the government?
the difference is that AI is just a computer program replacing coal plant with gas plant has it still using resources a data center being built in a place where it hogs resources is the issue, not the data center or what it runs
Given that the government has to approve the building of the coal power plant and take into account all the negative effects then yes its a government problem.
If there’s a remote village somewhere that needs a steady supply of electricity and coal power is the only solution. Is that a bad thing because it’s coal?
If a coal plant was then built in a place where the water supply was scarce and they government was like sure you can build that here whatever and then they did and suddenly the towns people had to start importing water bottles to meet the demand. Is that a coal problem or a government problem?
Profits over everything else is the goal of capitalism.
It’s not even profitable though… At this point it seems it is just about control, like they would rather have a money pit then let independent workers, ie creatives, have any profit.
It is about the prospect of profit. If you can make a machine that puts everyone out of a job, the profit is literally infinite. The same or better productivity output with zero labour cost input. You would have to be out of your mind not to invest in the infinite money machine.
Unfortunately (fortunately?), the infinity money machine is not possible with LLMs. These bullshit generators are a dead end in AI tech. But nobody with investor money believes that yet.
If you put everyone put of a job then you get infinite money but an economic collapse that makes that money worthless.
Economic collapse doesn’t matter if you:
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Own the means of production to sustain your way of life
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Have fully automated it
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Can protect it using automated security
Which is what billionaires are going for. They do not care if economic collapse leads to billions of deaths, as long as they live in an automated utopia themselves.
Dang I didnt consider that.
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I think most people would be happy if you took away their fake money (stonks) and replaced it with everything they needed to be happy
Idk I feel like rich people just like seeing big number get bigger.
For everyone else though couldn’t be more true.
You know, if you don’t massively and stupidly exaggerate, it’s not evil!
