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  • Both can be true?

    At least I’d argue US cultural exports and social media is more dominant than, say, Germany’s.

    But the US has had the right attacking democracy for longer than people are probably assuming too. I’m sure there is a better example than Newton Gingrich (anything goes, lying is fine, undermining the house) be he was 1995 and the Tea Party kind of grew from there and helped give the political space for Trumpism. McCarthyism is probably not too reasonable since there was a period in the middle but thats the mid-1950s and admittedly if you’re going back that far then its only a decade after fascism was in Europe












  • Mate, looks like you can’t read my last paragraph and are repeating dogma

    You rewrote my first paragraph by using four paragraphs but largely talked around the fact that the geographical region that we call Taiwan has a government that doesn’t fold into the PRC

    Agreed that the way both governments claim to control both the mainland and Taiwan complicates things. If you want to simplify that complication take a flight from the mainland to Taiwan and if you actually go to the domestic airport and don’t pass through immigration and customs then let me know. It’s pretty direct messaging from both that they’re independent of each other. (Admittedly as I remember it, the Chinese side had a sign saying something like “International flights and Taiwan” when I was there and thats a pretty weak way to save face.)

    Agreed though that your view is one way of interpreting these documents and generally agreed upon history. Strongly disagree that it’s the only interpretation or that there was anything you said that strongly prohibits (not some weak implication from a quirk of history) a faction in the PRC interpreting the geographical region of Taiwan as being too independent. That interpretation is clearly a risk to a lot of people

    You’re also using circular logic: Everything you said holds because Taiwan hasn’t formally declared independence but everything you said prohibits Taiwan from declaring independence due to the risk of military force.

    But lastly, I’m no longer going to be charitable: you’re defending threatening military force on a geographic region thats been functionally autonomous for 70 years if it has the audacity to formally declare itself independent and regardless of if there are political movements with momentum to do that its fucked up! There are so many bug tickets for services online from individuals that want to identify and being from Taiwan but they can’t because the PRC strong armed in ISO 3166-1. The world is fucked up and complicated so there are many disagreements but stop jamming your very one-sided view that aligns very heavily with the PRC down other people’s throats


  • To my understanding Taiwan has been governed by the Republic of China since 1949 and they’re independent of the People’s Republic of China (although the People’s Republic of China claims Taiwan). Since the Republic of China also claims mainland China this independence isn’t codified formally but the government is functioning autonomous and independent.

    That seems like more than enough for the document to be used as a threat since your argument seems to precariously sit on one pedantic reading that is hasn’t “formally” happened yet and any group in the People’s Republic of China could at any time take the different reading that this already happened in 1949 and they were just being kind by not invading.