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  • I see where you’re coming from. I also really wanted that in my early days of android and nextcloud. Turns out, nowadays you don’t really need that for most use cases, and definitely not for KeePass syncing. Nextcloud app for android exposes all the files via content framework and KeePassDX can sync two ways via that. Other apps like Keepass2Android even have direct nextcloud support via WebDAV, though these days I prefer KeePassDX a little bit more for unrelated reasons.

    I recommend you try either KeePassDX or Keepass2Android and see for yourself.

    Also, most file managers support CF and will show you your nextcloud files as if they were real files on the device, even without “real” two way sync, and most other apps will be able to save & open files directly from nextcloud.



  • Signed developer certificates protect you from MITM attacks, it does not protect you from the sources themselves being compromised.

    Very true, and that’s why f-droid building from source can only guarantee the apk matches the source, but you still need to trust someone else (or yourself) to study the source and confirm nothing shady is going on, which of course isn’t something most people would do for any open source app they install.

    Still, for “high profile” cases it just take one (independent) person to go through the source and publish their findings.


  • Yes, I understand the situation is shady and f-droid maybe didn’t handle it the best way on a human level, and that is important when evaluating trustworthiness.

    What I was focusing on was more on the technical side: As long as I can:

    • trust f-droid to actually build from source and only publish something guaranteed to match the source, and
    • read the source code myself, or trust an independent researcher to study it, and confirm there’s no malware,

    then I don’t need to trust the maintainer of the project at all, and I can ignore all the drama, being assured with a high degree of certainty there is no malware

    I can also ignore any drama involving f-droid as long as I still trust them to build from source. This can also be verified by independent researchers by buulding themselves ans comparing, once again filtering out the drama and noise, though most people probably won’t go this far.


  • I don’t use syncthing (anymore) and didn’t know the story behind this, but one thing I know is, f-droid builds the apk from source and signs it with their keys, or if reproducible builds are available, it verifies the signed apk provided by the maintainer to match bit-for-bit with the source code, so at least even if one doesn’t trust the new maintainer, they should be able to trust f-droid that the apk matches the source, so e.g. no spyware or malware was added for example. Sure, someone still needs to review the source, of course.