But can we talk about how lasseiz faire we used to be about children online security.

“Lasseiz faire” online security was applicable to all individuals, it wasnt directed to a specific group. It also makes no sense to look at what we used to do when online totalitarianism and discriminatory segregation is arguably causing more significant damage to everyone involved.

The packaging was just a taster for what’s to come, I.e. discrimination leading to fascism.

I agree, social media is harmful for all, no matter the age. We shouldn’t be destined to further segment and disfranchise individuals solely because they’re “inferior”, based on age or any other discriminatory factor - the thing is, who is the victim and who is the abuser in this case? Because the situation at hand seems like the victims are getting punished for the wrongdoings of the abuser.

This is where we are at, the corporations flipped the script, and we as a society gulped it all down, tightening the handcuffs around the wrong hands.

But besides the point, relating to the logic within your statement, who are you trying to ban here? Because you mention both “everyone” and “them” - which consequently makes it ambiguous, which introduces double meaning.

Also, the system is not predatory, there are simply predators in the system

I’m just going to leave it at that. Glorifying capitalism is onething but adding discrimination to the mix, and the insifignificance of experience, and the apparent need for fascism to protect the kids and eliminate the need for parenting is absurd to say the least.

The fact that predators are enabled to flourish within the system, while minorities are suppressed and their rights stripped is exactly why that statement is invalid.

Yep, it really seems that all that money goes into coehersion so everyone uses their proprietary format. It is hard to actually come across high quality video releases that are in AV1 - even if you prefer the loyalty free nature of AV1.

But in terms of hardware, AV1 is getting more popular. For one, it is a relatively new format.

Thats what ambiguity enables, a logical fallacy that allows evil corpos to do as they please. And thats basically capitalism, or even feudalism at this point.

To be fair, having experience in OSes from childhood is certainly a life lesson to the upcoming years within teenhood and adulthood. I’m not undermining this attribute, as within a world of complexity, having any experience already puts you further than most.

Please stop trying to justify fascist laws. Ageism is still discrimination. And like people, without prior experience it is quite logical they will be susceptible. This of course applies to anyone any age.

The only problem here is the predatory system that is designed to exploit people. The victims are not the predators so justifying how their rights should be stripped based on an arbitrary number makes this whole argument insignificant.

Like other types of discrimination: racism, sexism, there are other ways than to introduce more social segmentation which always leads to fascism.

Actual studies say

The general consensus is the studies say that usage of devices impacts everyone. Let’s not cherry pick a particular minority here, just to explain that stripping their already insignificant rights is a good thing. In addition teenagers, which are not children, are dismissed here. According to studies they are more similar to adults in therms of decision making capabilities - dismissing that is ageism.

I think no phones until 18 would be doable

This is essentially the same speak as the laws trying to ban privacy for all. First of all where is the consent? Also, what is the sense of punishing the minority for being who they are, stripping their rights, if the perpetrators are still unharmed? In essence, phone and laptop usage wouldn’t be so bad for anyone (not just kids or teenagers), if we focused on the actual problems not turn to discrimination.

as a child

So you where under 12, when you learned how to use Linux?

In general, I do agree with controls set on children, locally by the parents that is - excluding teenagers.

Rhetorical questions aside. Let’s not counteract a dystopia with another dystopa here.

Exactly, children and teenagers are meere tools.

Like all the previous fascist waves, they all centre around discrimination. It is about taking advantage of the societies inherent discriminatory behavior, in the past this was mainly racism - in this case however, its ageism.

It is the fact that anyone young is treated as a subclass citizen or in fact not even a person. ID laws are examples of fascist unjust laws which consequently invalidate the freedom and speech of young people. Our society rewards infantilization of others, and it shows how truly ignorant and adulcentrist we all are.

Finally, I don’t believe all of mankind will look back, as all the cases with fascism is “ignorance is strength”, so tracing the problem back to our societal ageism and discrimination will only be done by a select bunch.

Fighting against pedophilia

How exactly is fighting against a mental illness going to solve anything? The majority of cases right now, Epstein, et all, are rapists not pedophiles in that context.

Pedophilia isn’t going to magically dissapear, alas it should be less scrutinised such that those who are I’ll are helped. Rape is a crime which should be fighted against, an illness is not a crime.

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is in high school

And that makes them a teenager; or if you want to be more broad, a minor.

Regular people of america have lost nearly all their bargaining power. I certainly do agree, that this petition will do barely anything considering the history with similar scenarios. At this point, it is like holding to a false promise.

Another thing is, let’s not infantilize individuals within these situations. They are not a child. And in essence, age has no meaning here, criminal scum like this will assault anyone who opposes them.

Its just sad that the regular people have to live in opression. At this point it doesnt matter what race you are, but if you’re a straight up Nazi or not.

Then parents need to teach kids to stay away from these places

First of all, those parents need to teach themselves, because it is an all ages problem. In reality, the majority will follow the biggest group - that group being the fascist platforms.

I do agree, that it is basically pointing fingers. But the fact is, the social media landscape is engineered to chain the users up into their ecosystem. Teaching will only do so much - regulation of those platforms is what should occur.

Child: “a young person especially between infancy and puberty” (Merriam-webster)

teenager: “someone who is between 13 and 19 years old” (Merriam-webster)

Something doesn’t add up here…

But the thing is, the author is not a child and they didn’t declare that they expected a daycare. The only thing that they wanted was a friendly interaction with their peers - as opposed to misogyny.