FishFace

Can’t speak to your specific example but I have 100% heard people say “had an accent” to mean “has a regional accent”, that would include, for example, an Appalachian accent.

Not necessarily. People who say “he has an accent” just think that their accent is “not an accent” so it could also be a (different) regional accent.

Everyone has an accent!

Yeah peanut butter is delicious

Damn, need a red arrow pointing to the red text!

Glad someone added the red text, otherwise I wouldn’t know what to laugh at

It should fundamentally be deliberately stupid. It could be offensive, but if so it should be offensive in a stupid way.

I don’t believe I did. I was always talking about whether it was necessary to offer incentives to do jobs like waste collection or if they’d be done anyway in an ideal society.

I dunno what “good at karaoke” means other than singing well.

Don’t get me wrong, I also find it annoying when a group goes to karaoke and there’s the one theatre kid who can actually sing and just embarrasses everyone else, but I’d still say they’re good

Why? Singing and making music is a worthwhile goal that you generally achieve by some other means than doing a lot of karaoke. But to get good at bowling you have to specifically have practiced bowling.

Well yeah but you only store it there until it’s used obviously

I think this would really benefit from a lone pea placed just at the apex of each one.

Jeez, how long have you been spending on thesaurus.com?

If you agree most people need to be paid to do work, then we have no disagreement on the topic at hand, so there is no need to argue at all.

It’s not fear of repercussions; it’s social glue. Crime is much more common in cities, out of proportion with how many people there are, because people who are willing to commit crime are not willing to commit it against people they know personally. Urbanisation allows depersonalisation allows bad behaviour.

It also allows effects to be transmitted that are simply way less direct than you have any hope of instinct being able to reckon with. Like, you can work out that tossing shit out of your window will piss off your neighbour, but the knock-on-effects of what you do can be harder to figure out than that. Did you buy a little bit more of anything at the start of COVID, “just in case”?

Because, I don’t know if you’re noticed, having a paying job is exhausting. The world setup in such a way that for a normal person, getting money means someone will suck every bit of life of you.

Yet most people have hobbies. So what you’re saying is that working as a garbage disposal person is not enjoyable enough to generally make people want to do it every day alongside having a regular job. They’d rather play video games, or write a Lemmy frontend, or something else that’s more fulfilling and doesn’t stink.

Do you really believe everyone would act like a psychopath if they aren’t accountable for their actions?

No.

There are many things that people are willing to do for their own satisfaction, I don’t disagree with that. I don’t think waste disposal is one of them.

The “communal life” you’re talking about cannot exist in an urbanised society, because most people you affect in a city are not personally known to you, and there will be no opportunity for the social mechanisms we evolved to pressure us into doing the right thing. In a village of 200 people, if you throw your shit in the street, your neighbour, whom you know personally and whose opinion you likely care about, will complain. In a city of 2 million, if someone throws shit in the street you have no idea who it was, they’ve never met you, and what are you gonna do about it anyway?

Anyway, I should bow out now. I have no interest in discussing politics or economics with an anarchist.

If it’s so enjoyable, why don’t they do it as a hobby and have a different paying job?

To be clear, I think the answer is obviously that, to most people, it’s not that enjoyable.

It sounds like you have never come across the concept of the tragedy of the commons?

The particular topic of waste disposal is a good one because we have good historical accounts of the transition from a free-for-all to regulated, paid profession. Take the example of Paris, which in the 17th century was infamous for its dirt and stink. Repeated efforts to force people to keep their own streets clean failed, and ultimately residents complained that if the King wanted the streets to be clean, he had better pay for someone to come and clean them. Eventually city officials managed to force (through threat of punishment) residents to sweep waste and mud into the middle of the streets, and pay people to come through and collect and remove it.

In 15th century Britain, nightmen removed waste from cess-pits and charged two shillings a ton. If there were enough people who just loved shoveling shit so much to do this without money changing hands, why weren’t they out doing that?