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      If every American did just a bit of that simultaneously, nobody would be worrying about either. They’d be worrying about their country and it’s consequences to the globe. Something Americans are incapable of. No mass unrest, no unrest to register. The job market is already upsidedown, again, under trump, again. What’s the worst in tipping the scale over and bouncing off of rock bottom? It’s what the world needs. It’s what you need. It’s what I need. China did it. The French still do it. Americans have lived catered to buy slaves and slave labor since this countries inception, ain’t nobody willing to get uncomfortable even in the face of oppressive regime. So, yes. Get into unsecured debt. Try out homelessness while you protest in the streets. Nobody in their right minds goes to work, protest, then work again. Fucking commit or be honest that your so called values are hollow virtue signaling. Come on in, the waters fine.

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        I don’t think you realize that you are advocating for the destruction of lives more than the destruction of America. It is chaos and absorbs chaos. The system I am stuck in was made by design to bend instead of break and the obstinance and disconnect from both the corrupt elite and those deluded into supporting them is a larger barrier than people outside of the country understand.

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          I am an American, born here. I get it. Hardship is not the destruction of lives, nor is bankruptcy, nor is homelessness. The destruction of life is the destruction of life. What path are we on? How far down the tracks are you? The same track we’re all tied to on this sinking ship. So, quick! Do nothing differently!!

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            What a powerful tool and ability perspective is. I hope the best for you as you do nothing in your own direction as we get pulled by this ship.

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        “All you have to do is convince 150 million adults to sacrifice what little safety and security they feel they have to do a thing they’ve never personally experienced through decades of propaganda. Why are you still sitting there, crying?”

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          i’m assuming that this is snark, but this will come to pass eventually if that 150 million continues on this path.

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            Every reasonable person knows that. But people aren’t reasonable. The average person is a complete fucking moron. Tack on to that idiocy, you’ve also got years of talk radio, podcasts, and Cambridge Analytica technology in social media affecting their brains and you’re not going to reach them. That’s not to say they can’t be reached, but you’re not going to convince them. There’s not an argument or series of arguments that will reach them. They need to experience things to get out of that mindset. We’re finally seeing that come to pass as layoffs, food and fuel costs are angering people. They’re shaking their heads a little. We will get there. I have no idea how much damage will be done before then. I have no idea what systems are recoverable. I don’t know if there will be too many people in concentration camps, I don’t know if we’re going to have any water or farmable land. And I don’t know if there will be anything worth fighting for by the time enough people decide to fight. I suppose that’s how many of these events play out in history. Authoritarian regimes are temporary by nature. Who survives them and how is always changing.

            I’ll take a moment to note some challenges about living and fighting in America. The country is huge. Moving people from one part to another is not trivial. Ask anyone who went to a big concert, or a hot vacation spot how it went and they will always mention the traffic. And that’s just an uptick in people at one location. Doing things en masse requires infrastructure we don’t have. And along with that infrastructure, any given spot has about 3 days of food without trucks. No one area (save for Central California) grows enough of a variety of foods to exist on. The central plains have wheat and corn, the coasts have fruit, the South has livestock. Not only do we only exist for a few days without resupply, the resupply routes are days of constant driving to do so from different parts of the country simultaneously. Most any Western State is the size of European Countries. To get produce from California to Washington DC is like moving it from Spain to Ukraine. Or Ireland to Uzbekistan.

            So, tell me, how easy is it for an Irishman to convince parts of the UK, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Switzerland (just kidding, they’d never join anything), Italy, Austria, Greece, Czechia, Romania, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine and maybe even Georgia and Azerbaijan to keep supplying them with food and supplies as they do a general strike with potentially no forceful outcome? Or even that same Irishman to travel to the political seat of Uzbekistan with members of the aforementioned countries in tow in numbers large enough to affect change and make sure people are supplied along the way? You tell me how to make that happen and I’ll do my part in mapping it out.

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              Well put. I wish more people put 1/10th the thought into posting that you demonstrate. Specifically on other social platforms, go Lemmy.