• migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    This narrative is fucking ridiculous to help justify an unjustifiable war. Putin is a fascist leading a fascist regime in a country that is the farthest thing from USSR. Invaded an independent country, started a modern trench war, because the Ukrainian army has a group that has Nazis? That’s the lamest excuse. All armies in the world have groups that are Nazi/Fascist sympathizers. You need to stop parroting fascist propaganda while calling yourselves Leftists.

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      2 months ago

      All armies in the world have groups that are Nazi/Fascist sympathizers.

      Evidence of this? It’s hard to prove a 100%, and I doubt AES countries do.

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        2 months ago

        This is true. You need people ready to kill and die because of an order. Sane people, if free to choose, dont go to war

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          It only takes one side to have fanatics for the other side to need to defend itself; it’s not just an order that drives sane people to war.

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      2 months ago

      If Ukraine is so independent why does Zelensky has to go regularly to the white house to lick whoever sits there and get embarrassed publicly?

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        2 months ago

        30% of ukranians flew before being conscripted. They guys fighting are the poor ones that dont actually own any apartment in the donbass.

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          The ones fighting are the nazis because they’re the only ones with the will to fight at this point. Look at how azov ballooned from a battalion to basically the entire military

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            They killed an Italian journalist which was documenting ukranian war crimes. Andrea rochelli is the name.

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      2 months ago

      “Independent country” lol no, current gov in Ukraine was installed by US backed coup, is an obvious puppet for our foreign policy, removing it is a good thing regardless of who does it

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    2 months ago

    Imperialism is actually a good thing when the government you’re attacking has bad people in it. Just like Iraq, right guys?

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      Oh, was Iraq bad? I was told by shitlibs that the guy in charge of the government who we put there to secure resources and kill leftists had suddenly and overnight become the ultimate villain and we would be greeted as liberators. I was told that if I disagreed with total war I was a Putin shill Saddm lover. What ever happened to that? Seems like everyone is pretending they never supported it now.

      Anyway, no time to think back and learn from the past. We have to support this nazi government that we installed to secure resources and kill leftists! These are our nazis, that makes it okay! Operation Paperclip? Idk sounds like some commie conspiracy theory!

      Like what’s the common American denominator here dude? Reeeally think about it. Also you don’t know what imperialism is, or you wouldn’t be using a definition that classifies the D Day landings as “imperialist”.

      Some bad people in it

      “Just a few seig heiling bad apples in the heights of government and military power”

      Overall this is a truly shit-tier analogy, try harder. You are the Humvee-driving Iraq war cheerleader in this metaphor.

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        2 months ago

        You read and write like an LLM, I’m saying both wars are bad

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          Liberals and dehumanization, an iconic duo

          Yeah every war is “bad” genius, if that’s the extent of your analysis then you’re useless. Try actually engaging with any of my points and then we can talk.

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        Was Iraq bad? Ofc. Who installed saddam in the first place? Trump is telling: Americans first create the mess, buy the dips ( like Iraqi gold), then either flee like in Afghanistan, or try to reach some kpi for allied press. American imperialism is a cancer.