• hubobes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    3 months ago

    And at some point someone will tell me what is so horrifying about these new features? Mozilla might be the only company trying to provide privacy first AI features. What exactly is so bad here? You can even disable these features if you do not like them at all.

    • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      3 months ago

      The problem is that they’re pushing it without any way for those of us who really don’t want that crap to strip it out of the browser. I don’t want all this ai garbage, never asked for it, and am harassed at every corner by every fucking company thinking it’s somehow going to change the world.

      Sure, Mozilla allows you to turn off some of these features, but I’ve already had it reenabled in updates after previously disabling it. Further, many of the settings are buried in about:config, which is not a user-friendly way to make those changes. At best, these functionalities should be opt-in and presented as addons that can be installed, rather than being a core part of the browser that cannot be removed.

      • artyom@piefed.socialEnglish
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        3 months ago

        It is opt in. Or will be. And they’re adding an AI switch.

        Not disagreeing with you, just adding context.

        The bigger problem is that they’re wasting their finite resources on this crap instead of adding actually cool features like their forks are doing.

        • finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          3 months ago

          They keep saying their ai features will be opt-in, and yet everything they’ve rolled out so far is opt-out. I struggle to believe future ‘features’ will be any different. Maybe it’s opt-in in the sense that I’m not required to click whichever button activates it, like whatever they added to the context menu, but that’s not really what opt-in means and degrades my trust in Mozilla.

          I’m also frustrated by their seeming inability to focus on their core browser product and building a popular competitor to chromium browsers instead of going off on side quests.

      • hubobes@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        3 months ago

        I do not want the dev tools and neither the Extension framework, can I get rid of those? No? Being able to completely disable the features is not enough how? How does the code laying bare on your harddisk get in your way of using FX? They already promised a kill-switch. And you saying it turned on after an update is but an anecdote.

        • cv_octavio@piefed.caEnglish
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          3 months ago

          Dev tools doesn’t require a data center to run. Your comparison is flawed and suggests an ill-informed opinion about this topic.

          • notabot@piefed.socialEnglish
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            21 days ago
            • You still have the extra bloat in memory.
            • it shows a lack of focus on core issues rather than adding “cool” features.
            • Can you actually trust that switching it off will disable it in every place they’ve incorporated it, not just now, but also in future?

            There are undoubtedly other issues too.

    • 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      3 months ago

      There is no such thing as a privacy first AI, unless you’ve the hardware to run the model yourself (and, you don’t).

      • Kissaki@feddit.orgEnglish
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        3 months ago

        There different kinds of AI and some run just fine locally or even on mobile. Not everything is a big LLM.

        • 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          3 months ago

          I am aware, but none of those are the kind of AI that anyone who makes a web browser wants to put into one.

          The whole point of shoving LLM assistants into products is for tracking. People share their intimate thoughts with LLMs. They plot murders. They fall in love with it. They most certainly ask for summaries of this quarter’s unreleased earnings report. In a browser, they ask it to do the research for them, and depend on what it tells them in kind. They trust it alone with their deepest desires and their darkest thoughts. That’s worth so much more than HTTP_REFERRER and a tracking pixel, and those are already worth billions.

          What an incredible opportunity to seize the means of information. It’s every capitalists wet dream to be an integral part of the ultimate humanity control machine.

          And that is why it needs to be stopped, even if we assume good intentions. We cannot throw up our hands and allow this to be normalized. This must be mocked and ridiculed and made to seem as ridiculous as it is. It must be monetarily penalized. It must be stopped.